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Comment on Jung’s Shadow and Enlightenment by ezraloomis

ezraloomis — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 06:01:47 +0000

@Darrell861 He was expressing the truth and humility–but he was able to guide people through the process of beginning to understand their dreams. He did not have a pat formula. Dream work is very important in exploring the psyche and bringing unconscious motivations to light in order? to integrate the Self. As a licensed psychotherapist, I see no breach of ethics whatsoever. If that were the case, there would be many who are guilty. As a mental health practitioner, I don’t understand your point.

Comment on Jung’s Shadow and Enlightenment by Darrell861

Darrell861 — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 05:26:07 +0000

@ezraloomis Jung did not guide people through the process of dream interpretation. He made dreams mean what he wanted. Twice he used his unilateral interpretations as a basis for diagnosis (MDR 134-36, MAHS 59-60; specifically p. 63). In neither case did he inform the dreamer of his diagnosis. The second case was fatal. Jung breaks the Hippocratic? Oath. Mary Ann Mattoon’s “Applied Dream Analysis: A Jungian Approach” is riddled with case studies where Jung interpreted dreams unilaterally.

Comment on Jung’s Shadow and Enlightenment by Darrell861

Darrell861 — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 05:19:53 +0000

@ezraloomis Jung comments on “…why the ordinary person finds dreams so difficult to understand.” (MAHS p.27)? He groups himself and other Jungians as distinct from ordinary people. Marie Louise von Franz says “It is not a good idea to interpret one’s own dreams.” Interpretation is a professional skill not to be left to the man on the street. James Hall says that he selects which dreams from the client’s journal will be discussed, and that Jungians are “particularly strong” at interpretation.

Comment on Jung’s Shadow and Enlightenment by Darrell861

Darrell861 — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 04:33:43 +0000

@ezraloomis Daryl Sharp, editor of Inner City Books, has said, “If you think you’ve understood the meaning of a dream immediately upon waking, chances are you are mistaken.” The thrust of Jungian dream interpretation is that it is the dominion of Jung and his followers and not the person who experienced the dream. “At that time [1907] I analyzed at least 4000 dreams a year.” That comes out to 11 dreams a day? for 730 consecutive days. This is a logistical impossibility, and Jung is lying.

Comment on Jung’s Shadow and Enlightenment by Darrell861

Darrell861 — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:52:47 +0000

@ezraloomis As a mental health practioner, you must confine your comments to questions like, “What does the dream mean for you?” If you suggest meanings of? dream images, you are straying into unethical territory. It’s fine if a biblical sorcerer or prophet wants to interpret dreams,. It’s fine if your neighbor Marge invites you over for coffee and dream interpretation. But a licensed professional cannot claim to have qualifications which he does not have. Sorcerers were never licensed.

Comment on Jung’s Shadow and Enlightenment by greg39603

greg39603 — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:45:00 +0000

@Darrell861
The trip is that you yourself interpret the dream, which is about you most of the time, yours..the only? thing that the therapist can do is to trigger that ability in you.and suggest archetypal themes common to a series of dreams..that you miss..
greg58

Comment on Jung’s Shadow and Enlightenment by Darrell861

Darrell861 — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:18:36 +0000

@greg39603 Jung never triggered any dreamer’s ability to interpret his dream. All of his interpretations were done unilaterally with no dialogue from the dreamer whatsoever. In 1978 Mary Ann Mattoon, PhD wrote “Applied Dream Analysis: A Jungian Approach.” She sifted 726 cases of dream interpretation presented by Jung. Of the ones she cites not one has to do with the dreamer interpreting his own dream as a result of what you call “triggering.” Jung made dreams mean what he wanted them to mean.?

Comment on Jung’s Shadow and Enlightenment by kobevsjordan310

kobevsjordan310 — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 02:35:47 +0000

I am having to watch this for my English class this Fall. I really enjoyed? it. Thanks!

Comment on Jung’s Shadow and Enlightenment by Darrell861

Darrell861 — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 01:47:39 +0000

@alexd181 The title says it all. It’s “Jung’s? Shadow”. In other words, he invented the concept. Only Jungians use the term. Most people have no idea who he is. The Shadow does not exist outside Jungian psychology.

Comment on Jung’s Shadow and Enlightenment by freudian456

freudian456 — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 01:12:10 +0000

@Darrell861 So by your thinking, evolution doesnt exist out side of evolutionary science, the laws of physics doesnt exist? outside of the physics, or skinner’s operant training doesnt exist outside of his followers. You have to be one of the biggest idiots on this forum….